View Full Version : To tall for the Shop?
04-27-2005, 11:27 AM
In my research on cyclones ive came across a few that have the motor and blower housing sitting on the floor. Basically duct work comes from the top of the cyclone down to the blower then back up too the filters. I thought that this concept would solve the wall vibration since the motor is not being mounted to the wall. Also I did see one set of plans that enclosed the filters and pulled the air threw the filters instead of pushing it threw. Anyways if you was able to move the motor and blower to the floor it would provide allot more head room for those people that have the low ceilings.
PS: hey Ed can you also make a clear waist bin for the bottom of the cyclone? I think it would look cool and practical to be able to see how full the trash can is.
04-27-2005, 08:08 PM
The tradeoff for moving the blower to the bottom is that you spend some of your inches of vacuum on making the air do a "U" turn and run farther thru ductwork. So you'd have to spend more on power to get the same amount of suction and volume. It could be a trade worth doing in some cases.
04-29-2005, 09:04 AM
Ive tried to find the site that had the plans that had the motor last after the filters. Cant seem to find it any were. It had a lot of good info on cyclones and he had pictures of the system that he had made. Instead of the large filters he was using 6 shop-vac filters to cut costs. He had the motor and impeller mounted to the top of his filter box, he said that he wished he had placed it to the side. Anyways I was doing some thinking and was wondering about a design that is in my head. Ill will try to add a sketch of it to this post. I tossed in a crude muffler design to see what you all thought it is based off of a car muffler. The main thing I was thinking about was bolting the motor to the floor and pulling the air threw the filter. The ideal behind this is to avoid the wear and tear of the small abrasive particles from damaging the impeller over a long period of time. Nothing is set in stone yet and mainly im just tossing some ideals out to you all. :) The whole reason that I would get a clear vue would be so I could have it out in my main room of my shop and be able to watch and brag about how cool it looks. But the main room only has a 7'10" ceiling. Plus it has a tin roof and there is no air conditioning in the shop, so needless to say the attic gets really hot during the summer time and I am sure it would smoke a motor in a matter of minutes. I was thinking about putting the motor and filters in my wood storage room, and pass the duct from the cyclone threw the wall to the filters. It would be a definite advantage to me, to have the motor on the floor because it stays a lot cooler on the floor. Plus I wouldnt have to call in any extra help to lift a big heavy motor up into the attic. ;) As I said this is all very much in the planning stage so I am looking forward to all of your comments. :unsure:
04-29-2005, 08:03 PM
The stuff that gets past the cyclone is tiny, sub micron particles for a dust collector. So wear on the blower from it wouldn't be a problem even after hundreds of years. Enclosing your filter like that makes it much harder to clean, and it gives you a lot of new places that can leak. Having the filter as the last piece in the chain lets it do double duty as a muffler.
Noise comes not only from the air being moved through the system, it also comes from the surfaces of the equipment vibrating and coupling to the still surrounding air, like the sounding board of a piano. That's probably why the insulated heating duct helps so much.
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