6" PVC grade

[William_B]

Hi all, I have noticed that Ed says he can get 6" by 10' PVC for around $10. The best price I can find in my area is about $55 for the same 10' piece.

Now this is standard 'low grade' sewer PVC. Perhaps I am looking for something that is too high in quality. Can someone, anyone please give me the grade of PVC that you are buying. I would hate to have to build all my ducting out of 6" tin, but at a 10th of the price I might have to.

Thank you
WB.

[Jim O'Dell]

William, I hadn't seen the 10.00 price but 55.00 is way too expensive. 19.00 to 21.00 seems to be the going rate from the posts I have read here, and on various woodworking forums. It took a while for me to find here in Fort Worth. Check for plumbing supply houses in the larger cities. Another recent idea was to call septic installation people...they mostly use 4", but their supplier should have or be able to get 6". Irrigation companies may have a good idea of a supplier also. And you want to ask for SD 2729 thinwall gravity fed pipe. It does not need to be able to handle pressure. The thickness of the pipe material is 1/tenth of an inch. If you have priced the green pipe, it's the wrong stuff. 2729 is white.
Good luck in the hunt. It took me a couple weeks to find someone that had it in stock. Try to talk to someone who has worked for the company for as many years as possible. They know what they have, and what you need. Most of your fittings can be purchased on line at McMaster-Carr. Mostly good prices, lots better than I could find local. Jim.

[Tim]

$55 isn't right. what is the cost of the fittings? I paid $16 and thought it was pretty reasonable. The fittings were pretty steep though. I think the wyes were $18.

Tim

[William_B]

Well, I have found prices now from $3.75 - $4.00 a foot. The fittings vary in price an amazing amount, I have quotes for a wye from $11.50 to $20+. I am not sure if the price of crude is causing this huge swing, or the relatice strength of the Canadian dollar.

I think that the total for my shop layout will be somewhere in the $400 - $500 range. If I went with the 6" tin ducting I could probably do the whole thing for under $200. This approach would likely be a lot noisier though...

WB.

[Jim O'Dell]

William, have you found a supplier for your PVC yet? I went and bought 2 more 10' sections yesterday, and he told me 20.22. I said each? and he said no, for both, with tax. I sure thought I'd paid 20.00 each for the first 2 I bought, but I can't find the receipt. Maybe it was the lower price and I thought he quoted for a single, then didn't pay attention to the visa bill when I signed it, which is not like me at all.
Where I found this was at a plumbing supplier here in Fort Worth. I visited 5 before I found this one, and even at the 20.00 I thought I had paid, they were the cheapest. I believe the other plumbing supplies buy their stuff from this place then mark it up. Still can't believe they don't carry ANY fittings for it! Only carry the fittings in the gasketed style, and even the yard man said they were way expensive. Hope you've found an alternative to what you were quoted before. Jim.

[Guest]

Originally posted by William_B@May 3 2006, 08:18 AM
... or the relatice strength of the Canadian dollar...
Hi William,

Where in Canada are you? I've been trying to find affordable PVC in the Ottawa area for many months, and the cheapest I've found after calling all supply houses here is $42 per 10' (this is stuff called BDS, cheapest 6" I could find), and $23.71 for a wye fitting. At those prices I can buy metal that's intended for dust collecters, though the nearest supply for that is a 4 hour drive away...

-Rob-

[fred]

I bought 6'' PVC for 35$ /10'. Wyes were between 12$ and 25$. Here in Quebec, they call it BNQ. Just ask for 6'' BNQ. I found it at local hardware stores (in a very small town). They did not have it in hand, but could order it easyly.

Fred

[Jim O'Dell]

I'm going to copy and paste a note I entered on another forum. Just an update. A couple of you have purchased from Morrison Supply since I posted a note about their web site and locations in the southwest states. I understand the price was higher than what I paid. I went in and got the last piece I need to finish up my ducting today, and a different guy waited on me. The guy that gave me the good price was sitting behind a desk doing some paperwork. The new salesman punched in the part number (I took my last receipt in for that, and to verify price) He turned around and asked the guy at the desk if he had given me a special price, he came and looked at the receipt and said "Oh, you're the guy that does the dog shows. Get your stereo fixed yet?" then said yes, just put that price in per foot, it will be ok. So the regular price is higher, I just lucked into a deal on 60% of the pipe I needed. I didn't get a look at the real price, unfortuanately. Just thought I'd update so you will know when the price is higher, that it is the normal price. Jim

[John Lloyd]

I live in the center of the Heartland, Southern Illinois, 50 miles from Cairo.

We have all three major home stores, Home Depot, Lowes, and Menards.

Lowes sell, s&d35, an .185 wall thickness 6" at $35.00 per joint. Menards sell schedule 40 foam wall, which will not fit S&D fitting, too large OD, but it is $22.00 a joint. Home Depot sells neither pipe or fittings.

A quick trip to a LOCAL lumber yard. A "real" yard yielded $14.25 a joint for Schedule 2729, but you have to buy a lift of 24 joints (they will have to order it). A real deal if you can find a buddy within 100 miles or so to share it with.

Any of the 4 or 5 local Wholesale plumbing supplies here, the guys who sell to your plumber (plumber should be able and willing to give you a name) sell it for $15.50 a joint, in any quantity, and the fittings are about the same as Menards, the lowest of the home stores. This is schedule 2729, belled end 10' joints.

Menards has no idea why they sell S&D 6" fittings, but no pipe to fit it. The Schedule 40 foam wall requires schedule 40 fittings which are outrageous. But then Menards have no clue as to anything to do with the items they sell. You're on your own there.

S&D fittings at Menards are $6 bucks for short 90, $7 for 45, $2 or $3 for couplings, $14 for y's, $6 for 6 to 4 reducers. Wholesale supplier about the same, Lowes about 20% higher. Real long sweeps are available for 4" but I've not seen them for 6". They have "long" 90 els, but they are only marginally longer than the short els.

The Wholesalers seem to have no problem selling occasional retail in this area, tax added of course.

Flex pipe can't be had locally, at least not in this area, but Wynn seems reasonable, and at cost shipping is a good deal.

I would like to know if anyone has come up with a 6" miter box for cutting the pipe, perhaps a specially ground crosscut saw? Right now I'm using a Makita 18volt LiON 6" and cutting to a line, but if there were a way to make 12 1/4 degree cuts, take out the wedge, fold and cement the pipe to creat you're own long sweeps, it would save a lot of cost.

I've seen the site with the design software to make templates, but I don't have a way to make really smooth straight cuts in the pipe to bend it.

[dwdrury]

John,

Those are better prices than I've found here in the SC swamps. The Lowe's price is about the same, but the cheapest I've found SDR-35 is $27.70 per 10ft stick. Nobody locally carries 2729.

Also look in the General (To Be Organized) section of this forum. There's a similar topic, about a half dozen or so down if you sort on Last Post. Its a two pager, so it might be easier to look for that. "Pipe Fitting Source", I think.

As for cutting pipe, I was thinking of something similar. I have some of those fold up plastic sawhorses that come with 2x6 and Vee adaptors. Was thinking I could put two end to end and make a 2x6 with four plywood uprights screwed to the sides, two per, and spaced to accept a Japanese pull saw. No, haven't tried it yet. Round Tuits are in short supply here at present.

But if power cutting is preferred, check out the 15th and 16th photo in "Kimnach's Cyclone" in the photo gallery. Second page, top one last I checked.

Regards,

DWD

[John Lloyd]

Thanks for the tip on methods of cutting pipe {15th and 16th photo in "Kimnach's Cyclone"}. I'm sure that I will use something similar for straight cuts, but I probably build a shorter miterbox to try and fabricate elbows and sweeps.